Boole, The Band. ([info]boole) wrote,
@ 2006-10-28 05:28:00
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[info]black_chamber
2006-10-28 09:34 pm UTC (link)
I guess I need to find my installer disk to hear it, eh?

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[info]rekoil
2006-10-30 01:36 am UTC (link)
OK, so since the software modeling dudes have come up with a software emulation of every 70s analog synth worth using, they now have to move on to the 80s digital synths that spawned a million bedroom Yanni wannabes? Eek.

What's next, a virtual Emax II?

(So, how's it sound?)

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[info]br0d
2006-10-30 01:58 am UTC (link)
DX7 has been emulated as FM7 for years. In general we need more FM VSTis. Sytrus is supposed to have decent FM. The obvious win for the new agers would be an SY-77 clone. The synth I am waiting on is Oberheim Matrix. Sonic Projects just came out with OB-X, but I am sorta nonplussed by it.

You know the guy who recorded our first and second tracks back in 1996 (Voyeur, Greet The Sun) was Jeff Order up in Baltimore, funny you should mention Yanni because one of the funniest "music moments" of my entire life involved this guy. We are in there taking a break in the session, and we walk over and this guy has a giant framed pic of a Billboard chart on his studio lounge wall. He says "See that?" I'm like, "Wut." And he points to his name on the chart. "Notice something?" He says. "Wut." I say. "Above Yanni." He gloats. I acted impressed but I almost bust out laughing in his face and was taunted by the phrase SOOOOOOOOOOO FUCKING WHAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTT for like a week. If I was able to beat Yanni at making schmalz I might be inclined to take a garden scythe to my face instead of bragging about it.

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[info]rekoil
2006-10-31 12:29 am UTC (link)
Heh, The FM7 is probably the only digital synth WORTH emulating, so I'm glad it was the first...and it looks like NI extended the design quite a bit, making it capable of stuff that the original DX7 just couldn't do. Well done. I just saw a blurb about FM8, but I haven't checked it out in depth.

Really, I think my #1 complaint (speaking retrospectively - for years my go-to synth was a TG55) with the 80s digital boxes was the lack of realtime control. Seems that once they figured out that they could replace the mission-control knob and slider layout with a menu-driven interface, they never stopped to consider the fact that people might *like* having a knob for more than one parameter. Roland figured this out pretty early on and atoned for their sins by making the JD-800, but it took Korg a bit longer.

I think what's scarier than a Wavestation softsynth is the fact that it's bundled with an M1 softsynth...THAT is the demon rompler from hell that will forever haunt my days.

BTW, ever use Waldorf's Attack?

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[info]br0d
2006-10-31 05:38 am UTC (link)
Two big offenders on the "WE KNOW U WANT TONS OF MENUS" front were definitely Korg and Ensoniq. My old ASR-10 and EPS-16s had to have buttons replaced a few times from all the tapping around I had to do just to get the parameters I wanted. Especially the ASR-10, if you could see an old video of the speed at which I was capable of using that absolutely horrible interface you'd label me insane. Funny thing is, ASR-10/X were still some of the best samplers out there, the fx programs were pretty dope, and the power noise kids still love em. But they crashed like nothing else, and saving was abysmal.

On the Korg front I used a DSS-1 for a while, and wow, what a pain, similar problem--buttons, buttons, buttons. SY-77 had a nice big knob, but yeah, the other stuff I had access to, Ensoniq SD-1, etc. Buttons galore. I guess you need some degree of interface complexity with samplers and ROMplers, but I now prefer Kontakt to all of them. Ironically I was more productive then than now though, because I was so afraid of losing a track that I had to finish it. Heh.

The M1, I never used but that was one of the major workhorses of early industrial and EBM, just like the Juno 106 (which I still have) and the Alesis SR-16 and DM4/5. I have had Waldorf's Attack for years and I have used it on a couple of things, IIRC the really scratchy hats on Thelema are Attack. I think it's a fun toy but I have limited use for most synthesized percussion because the sounds are not harmonically rich enough for me. What it is good at, is making great ambient noise fx and shit. Maybe I'm just too lazy.

And you know the funniest thing is, at this point I am looking to reduce the number of tools I use because I think having too many options is poisoning me and becoming a nerdy gear glut. Some of my favorite bands ever made all theit shit with a drumkit, two guitars, and a voice.

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